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The lecture was .... interesting?

So where/when is it? Concurrent with Rin's story, pre, post? Which civilization?

I see the key is from an even older and far more advanced race than the Anari -- the Anari who claim to be the Human's ancestors. Perhaps one of those higher -- fifth or above -- plane beings? Also as earth was lost 220 years ago or so was it really destroyed? The Vault has been totally isolated 8500 years and the few humans who survived the attacks 220 years ago are scattered and might not be getting accurate info.

Hum, human DNA has much in common with every other living thing on Earth so most agree we evolved here. Yet we have the AI's claim the Anari are the human's ancestors/progenitors. So is the super advanced civilzation, the posible higher dementional beings some decendent of man who went back in time to start off the whole Key/Anari priestess-Prime story/the Anari *seeding* themselves on other planets historical time line? Kind of a "by your own bootstraps" evolution? Something is sure curious here IF the AI is being mostly honest which I fel it is.

Why would that bastard race destroy Earth unless they feared humans might rebuild their civilization and fight back. Still why waste resources?

As to the AI it is playing a deep game in that it is both helping Rin and carrying out it's old mission, to produce Primes and her associates.

A BIG Q is will Prime Rim be a clone of the late Anari girl -- she seemed rather short, one meter or 40 inches but she was 11 years old and might not have been yet into puberty-- a female version of himself but with some aspects of the girl's genetics or more as if SHE was their child?

The exceptionally fast and deep integration, if she survives, suggests she may well be a far more powerful warrior priestess than any ever were. Hum, that the ring survived and is functional 8500 years later and apparently is now integrating with Rin based on the late girls superior even for her kind Anari genetics, does this imply it may have save some of her consciousness, memories that Rin will *inherit*? Who attacked the base? A rival group among the Anari? A predecessor of the ruthless beings that scatted Earth's colonies and if Rin's info is right destroyed Earth?

The race that built the key and in particular Rin's Prime key are so advanced it was able to disable the Anari nanites that were reworking Rin to Anari immune system and other genetic specifications/enhancements. Yet the 8500 year isolated Anari nanites are way ahead of the translator nanites Rin had, presumably from one of the friendlier races that have helped some humans survive.

Rin will be some remarkable young woman IF she survives.

Um, the AI said in bonding with the key and symbiont the Anari women did give up something. Can they have children? Would such children still carry their original DNA contribution or some modified one to enhance their chance of being successful priestess candidates? Can they still love and think independently? Or is what they give up in a sense their independence and that they are now dedcted to the prestesshood's goals but as the AI implied the combined person is far greater than the sum of their parts.

Time to survive the transformation, get trained, get allies/converts to her new warrior priestesshood and then kick some alien scum ass! Or is it asses, they might not be built like us.

-- snicker --

Nice sci-fi space opera.

John in Wauwatosa

P.S. Am I even close in my speculation?

John in Wauwatosa

Humans are/were the prime predator

So, humanity got messing around in Space and discovered someone more predatory than us. Hmmmm, so sad, too bad.

I know that the Milky Way galaxy is an unimaginably huge place, but I am surprised that in a story featuring such advanced races, there would not be more travel to distant galaxies.

I have not seen this calabre of writing in a long lone time.

Gwendolyn

Thanks Gwen.

Yeah humanity is very good at sticking its nose in where it wasn't wanted!

Thank you for the compliment. It was very much appreciated.

If "Clan Atlath"...

...can be identified with Atlas, symbolically responsible for maintaining life on Earth by holding the planet on his shoulders, then the DNA similarity can probably be explained by (as you suggested) a re-seeding of all life forms when the Anari took over. Trouble is that the time frame doesn't seem right unless the Anari are inhumanly patient with their planet-life-shaping project.

And they don't seem to be THAT far ahead of us technologically -- not, like, millions of years worth. The difference between this 8500-year old facility (and AI) and the few hundred years since Earth's Industrial Revolution seem more than ample for the purpose.

And then there's the complication that if we're going to bring Atlas, a Level 5 entity, into the equation, we have the interdimensional effects to deal with. In one sense, that helps, by taking care of the massive energies involved in reshaping Earth; I wonder if they moved it into Sol's habitable range from elsewhere. But it's probably more trouble than it's worth.

Along those lines, I wonder about that statement in the lecture that higher-dimensional beings want us to worship them. I suppose that makes sense if one defines "worship" as "exchange material goods for energy or intangible things on demand", and few people would preclude that possibility by describing the denizens of Olympus or Valhalla as advanced over humanity in ethical behavior. But we don't expect the demons of hell to venerate us, which would seem to follow by analogy.

Getting back to the story, I suppose the Paladin AI has no choice but to assume that its mission, producing a new Prime, is still valid and useful. Because of its inability to communicate with the outside universe, it has no way of knowing whether there are still Anari around at all (they could have been wiped out, been enslaved or Moved On), or whether the leadership concepts and procedures of 8500 years ago still produce valid leaders. I doubt that a Sumerian ruler of c. 4500 BCE would be qualified for a modern executive position; on the other hand, there's more than technology involved here, and the rings (and, I guess, the symbionts) precede even Anari customs and protcols.

Besides, the only alternative seems to be letting Rin die.

There's also the philosophical element here. The AI finds Rin's revenge ideas alien and counterproductive. In the sense that the Prime apparently is by definition a nurturer, that may be true. But if the multispecies space civilization has devolved to a principle of kill or be killed -- I hope I'm wrong about that, since it'd imply empire-at-any-cost and our-way-or-die, with even unassuming pre-space species being liquidated, but it does explain the destruction of Earth -- a less civilized approach may be what's called for now.

Lots of interesting material here -- it should be interesting to see where it goes.

Eric

Atlas?

Wow Eric, again some close speculation in yoru comments.

I think maybe I should have referred to Clan Atlanth instead of Atlath...dead giveaway there to what I was thinking at the time.

You're right in that the Anari themselves were not massively ahead of humanity.

I alos doubt that an ancient Sumerian ruler would be qualified for a modern exec position, but seeing as how the tech levelsof Anari and humans ar enot so far apart, i don't think there would be an issue, although certainly some major cultural differences.

The AI itself has no choice except to assist its Prime to the best of its ability. Seeing as how logic forced it to accept Rin as Prime it kind of has no real choice after that.

The destruction of earth as a result of a kill or be killed space society... well that could be possible...but in this case I think you will find one of those pesky higher entities had a hand in it.

After that kind of hit, against first the Anari and then humanity, it is fair to assume that extreme measures are probably called for... Still Rin is only one person.

Thanks for your comments and i Hope you continue to enjoy the story.

Atlantis. Or, as Wapsi

Atlantis.

Or, as Wapsi Square called it, 'At Lanthis'

"Okay, we destroyed the main base/island facility 7,000 years ago, but that wasn't good enough. Let's take out the planet this time."

I'll get a life when it's proven and substantiated to be better than what I'm currently experiencing.

How close is your speculation?

Wow. That was my first response when I read your post. Some of the your speculation is surprisingly close to what I had in mind. Will I tell you which bits? Probably not - why spoil the surprise but I was impressed. I loved that you were able to take the hints I have dropped and produce a theory at the very least. I think that means I dropped the right hints so I am well pleased. lol.

Yes the Keys are much older than the Anari. You will soon find out how much older.

The lecture is concurrent with the story.

Humanity is destroyed with a definite reason.

I loved your query on the Prime's genetics. Well done.

I hope you are getting a sense of the scale of the story I have in mind. I only hope I can do it justice. Enjoy the next bit, and thanks or reading.

MOAR please...

I need MOAR!

I've got the feeling you're creating a new Jeanne D'Arc. Freeing humanity from the alien opressors and taking revenge for the Anari and Earth. I wonder what has happenend to the Anari in the first place.

I can't wait for the next part.

Thank you for writing this awesome story,

Beyogi

What Beyogi said!

Must have Moar! I like the Jeanne D'Arc reference because it really fits the situation. Sorta got a Titian AE thing going too, but this is much more interesting given the lost Anari race thing. The question I'm wondering is how much of Earth's biosphere was Anari. Did they Anari-form Earth? For that matter did they do an Extinction level event and then seed the planet? Hey, John isn't the only one who can come up with wild ideas!

Great stuff!
hugs
Grover

Titan AE was cool

That was a cool animation. I love Beyogi Jeanne D'Arc idea as well because I agree it fits well. As I replied to Beyogi I wish I had thought of the comparison.

I think Earth's history of extreme climatic changes has been a godsend in writing this story. After all who better to Anariform a world after an ice age? (I love your choice of phrase - Anariform...major kudos for that one. Glad you're enjoying it grover.

Jeanne D'Arc in space.

What a wonderful idea, i wish I had thought of that comparison, sigh.

The Anari themselves are lost in the mists of time, so I suppose everything that happens now is their legacy at one level or another.

Chapter 4 coming real soon.

Very good start, blayze

You have set the *scene* in general, given us some but not all of the *back story* and have given our hero soon to be heroine a hint of her possible future. Now the saga can move forward. You have given us just enough yet we know more info will be coming in the chapters ahead.

Nice way to *hook* us and keep our interest.

-- grin --

As reader I want to know the motivations, the whys behind important characters actions. You have supplied us enough for now. I look forward to learning more. And there are these little *hint* time bombs you have scatted about such as the reptilian alien raiders being incensed that they lost their pilot, a valuable female *breeder*. For *breeders* to be so valuable suggests a shortage of fertile females relative to men... but why? This implies some problem with THEIR race, perhaps a catastrophe in the past? A plague? Are they as much victims as the Humans were, on the losing side in the same *war* that nearly destroyed the human race?

I noted the AI worried about Rin's hatred and need for revenge against the beings, the raiders who killed his friends and tried to kill him. Yet I believe it also saw in that the seeds of the kind of personality a Prime requires. Sounded like the AI was planning that as part of Prime Rin's future training her hatred, her need for revenge would be nudged towards/evolve into a need for justice. Think of Bat Man's motivations/origin back story or that of many a hero real or fictional.

The idea of a lost race and its legacy is an honorable one in fiction. Look at was it the Ionians(?) in Star Trek or the legend of Atlantis.

Oh and welcome to BC!

John in Wauwatosa

Ideas and more ideas.

Glad you are on at the time I am writing this. The time difference involved with me living in the UK and the majority of readers apparently being in the US or Canada makes me feel like I am constantly a day behind in replying.

I am very glad you like the hints I drop and that they are keeping you interested. Thanks for the compliment as well. I have read your stuff for the Whateley Universe and enjoyed it a lot.

Rin definitely has an awful lot to learn and will be getting to grips with her new life in the next few chapters. Fortunately for them the Dtilla wont have to face her for a while.

I enjoyed quite a lot of the star trek stuff but never really had the time to watch most of it. As for the legend of Atlantis, surely the Clan Atlath could be a source?

Grin. Thanks for the welcome and I hope you carry on enjoying the story, I definitely enjoy the feedback.

Cheers

dangit!

I saw the title of this comment and immediately thought of the Japanese Rock band: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janne_Da_Arc

Abigail Drew.

Trade languages

Another Norton similarity, trade languages being used to communicate between different species, a sort of galactic patois. Languages developed to be usable by as varied speech systems as possible. Maybe an amalgam of the languages of dominant species through time, impacted as changes in galactographic dominance occur, with each newly dominant species adding words and phrases, so with the passage of time the trade languages gradually change, and have geographic differences as well based on regional dominance. These trade languages would become the language of scholarship, to provide for the widest dissemination of knowledge, which in turn would aid in freezing drift as scholars attempted to maintain access to the studies of previous generations.

Or maybe not. I've always liked the concept of interlingua, or related inter-species languages. Something more successful than Esperanto.

Yours,

JohnBobMead

Yours,

John Robert Mead

Trade Languages.

I agree with you totally about trade languages, after all in our societies today English Spanish and French and more latterly chinese languages are so dominant because of imperial ambitions and its follower trade.

I dont think there could ever be a successul intergalactic community without something similar.

Esperanto failed because of

Esperanto failed because of 2 things.

1) Too much latinizing. It was basically Spanish with a bad attitude, from what I can remember. Not enough cross-pollination.
2) Too artificial. Any _trade_ language has to be flexible. That's why English and the Roman alphabet have been dominating trade and computers. The basic language itself is extremely simple, and has a very limited subset of characters to deal with. Modifiers are almost nonexistent (like the accents and cedillas in romance languages) (Where English is hard isn't in the basic stuff. It's in the advanced grammar structures. Keep in mind that grammar and punctuation in English really hasn't changed in over 800 years. Just vocabulary and spelling. That's how we can read Shakespeare, and even Chaucer, with only needing explanation of certain words that aren't in use anymore. )

A true trade language would be one that could have the basics grasped very quickly; enough for simple trades. "I want 14 of these narfmelons, and I'll give you six quatloos in trade." Higher structures would be used for actual trade documents. Otherwise, you tell people that aren't very good with languages that they can't get involved in trades :)

Permanent translation nanites would be great, but you'd still have to be able to learn nuances and shadings.

I'll get a life when it's proven and substantiated to be better than what I'm currently experiencing.

Chu vi paroles Esperanton?

Ne, me ni paroles Esperanton.

Brakumoj,
Erin

= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.