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Eriana is torn……
By knowing that she cannot do more to protect Ursula, yet needing to do so. Not just because she wishes to protect Ursula as a member of her party, and not just because of Ursula’s importance to her party, but because of her feelings for her.
Oh what a twisted plot line this is becoming!
D. Eden
“Hier stehe ich; ich kann nicht anders. Gott helfe mir.”
Dum Vivimus, Vivamus
Eriana's feelings
It is easy even for me to forget just how young she is. Only 20ish in Anmar years. She has come out of a relatively sheltered society and been thrust into the deep end of the Valley civilization. There, everybody takes her at face value and has certain expectations of how a Princess should act and what she ought to be able to do.
Ursula is only a little older than Eriana but is very much more worldly-wise. Her background and experiences have also given her a more stolid, durable personality but even she has internal conflicts. Already she relies on Eriana but she has not yet recognized that.
It will be interesting to see how this relationship develops, but it will probably take some time before both parties accept the truth.
Thank you for reading.
Penny
Dogs have owners; cats have staff. Grand-daughters have minions.
"All my being screams out to protect you,"
she's got it bad for Ursula.
And the background work is done
Or will be as soon as I have posted this
Two thoughts Penny
I must admit to being very interested in who the old leader turns out to be. They did not bring the knowledge of how to make guns with them, or any kind of modern warfare. That only came with Yod's finding Yves Perriard. So just who are they? And yes I know, we just have to wait to find out. :)
A point of interest Penny, apart from Eriana presumably having her personal pistol with her, why did the Visund not take a couple of rifles aboard for its journey along the Sirrel. Or did the crew forget they had them onboard? They would have seen off the pirates from approaching them. I would have thought they would have taken some with them for protection.
rifles
there wasn't time to train any of the crew in their use. they have 3 pistols with them though
Firearms
Robanar did not want firearms to fall into the hands of anyone outside the Federation, since someone could use them or be inspired by them to make an improved design. Even within the Federation the weapons were to be kept under controlled conditions to avoid leakage.
The three pistols present would have been kept with their owners (under their skirts!) and thus would not have deteriorated in the damper conditions around the river. That wouldn't be likely with rifles.
There is a limited amount of spare ammo for the pistols, limited for the reasons above. It is possible that someone could take the powder and eventually work out the formula. Obviously, it is kept in the Visund in waxed paper packets in a sealed box until required.
Penny
Dogs have owners; cats have staff. Grand-daughters have minions.
Even beyond leaking the tech
Even beyond leaking the tech (as all parties involved in the war know of at least the ones employed by Yod), they only have one chance to establish management policy without it being too problematic, and they aren't ready to do that for more than a select few individuals.
Thoughts on "Old leader"
As a fan of SEE (when I found it, I actually read the corrected version so I did actually not find much discrepancies), I was wondering about that as well, even if it was somebody quite young from 3rd Reich, they would have been in H. Jugend (especially as a boy) and would have much of military knowledge to not leave any mark on Yod. So Yod would have trenches, camouflage, armour plates on wagons, firearms, chemical weapons, blips, and artillery many years in past and would not need Y. Perrinard. Especially in case of A. who also served in 1st WW.
Whoever they are, they are probably not who Ursula has been afraid to find. He would be 120+ in Earth years at the time this is happening (maybe less if we considered the cloning process to reset the cellular age of the transferee, but since the Epilogue of SEE does not mention what happened to others and Garia emerged, we do not know if that happens). That should be clearly too much even for Anmar healers (although he is dying after all). So I see there are 3 possibilities besides that I see immediately:
Of course there is still the possible workaround that the memories were not really intact after a shoot through one's brain and the military knowledge was lost. But the VMBs would probably not make such error during transfer and it does not mesh with the "memory dimension".
I guess we will see soon anyway.
Chain of command
holly cow, talk about greedy, trigger happy commanders. Ignoring area assignments is lunacy, and they almost started a war over glory hounding, so undisciplined.
I agree with Eriana on one
I agree with Eriana on one point, other than serving to feed Ursula's curiosity, finding out who the Feurher is serves no purpose.
It's not like she is going to kill him and extending his life seems like a rather stupid and pointless idea and letting them have access to another person from earth is really insane considering what they did with the previous one.
he's an old soldier, it's
he's an old soldier, it's only right that they are informed of how the war they were a part of ended. Also if the ascendancy is to resurge, those around him will likely be the epicenter
Sticky Wicket
How far up the river does Pakmal influence extend? It seems Eriana might have to fight her way up the river if she is going to run into the last of Yods Ascendancy and Pakmal's lack of structured government or command. Seems as if all those craft she is accumulating needs to be filled with Paraland military and traveling with her.
Well, the King did want her to explore the river and get a feeling for how the other nations were coping now Yod was no longer an overt threat. Kinda like Japan who had troops scattered across a fifth of the world and when the war was over, they had no idea.
Hugs Ms. Lane
Barb
Life is a gift, treasure it. The time will come when it must be returned.
Oklahoma born and raised cowgirl
Hi Barb
Maybe this will help you visualise?
https://bigclosetr.us/topshelf/system/files/u9128/Villages%2...
What a Snake River!
I kinda had in mind the Mississippi. No wonder many ride the roads rather than attempt that corkscrew of a river. Pakmal was fortunate they didn't have anything Yod wanted at the time. Being neighbors to a madman controlling a giant military didn't work out so well for those next to Germany or Japan. Sadly China seems to have the same mental intent now. Russia wants Ukraine back into their fold.
Hugs Julia
Oklahoma born and raised cowgirl
Yod had a go at Pakmal
See that valley to the southeast labeled "Yodan Watercourse"? Well, originally it was divided between Yod and Pakmal, one each side of the river, and then each had one of the two main tributary valleys.
So Yod decided that it wanted the lot and Pakmal was too weak to do anything about it, hence the new name. I'm sure the name will get changed again once this is all over.
Then Yod decided that they wanted a little more land so invaded the island in the middle, which belonged to Lower Fanir. Of course, Lower Fanir objected to this a little more than Pakmal had done to their invasion, so Yod pushed on into LF itself.
The rest is history.
Penny
Dogs have owners; cats have staff. Grand-daughters have minions.
Well federation military, at
Well federation military, at least, fortunately it seems Pakmal is likely willing to part with the captured galleys, good test for a steam tug once available sometime after the rains. Yod is about what they probably expected, you have pockets of militant Ascendancy left scattered, turning to crime, but by in large, without their legitimacy, or means of contacting each other, they are isolated, and their civil backbone knows it's over. that isn't to say they aren't a threat, as they still have enough influence to rebrand and legitimize themselves when the Federation pulls out and tries to organize an election (implied as outcome in Snep's day out). Pakmal is more of a surprise and a potential diplomatic concern, being on the opposite bank to one of the Federation members they can't ignore them.
The Sirrel Certainly Doesn't Go In A Straight Line
How much further can they go before they reach the limit of navigation?
It depends
before the rains (as it is at this point in the story) the water levels are at their lowest, but both their vessels are meant to be able to navigate shallow waters, Ptuvil as a river barge (lightly loaded now as converted into a passenger transport) and the Visund being designed to land on beaches, probably not much further than Bidek though on this voyage, there are other concerns.
The Sirrel
Actually, the Sirrel would likely be navigable for a very long way past the point the Visund will get to.
This is a river comparable to the Nile, Mississippi, Amazon, Mekong, you get the idea. It is BIG and LONG. At the point the Visund has reached it is still at least 2km wide (about 1.25 miles), and at this point it has split so we're only seeing half the flow.
It actually begins in the jungles far to the north, flows south and west and heads into the middle of the continent, including desert regions. It then becomes trapped in the rift valley (the Great Valley) which forces it to head north-east to eventually find the ocean. Othere tributaries join it along the way, including one from a series of lakes where the grakh migrate to.
I used a number of ideas taken from rivers all over Earth to envisage what the Sirrel ought to be. The Niger is a fair comparison, it rises in jungles, heads for the Sahara and then curls back to empty out into the Atlantic. Most of that is navigable.
It is possible that there are rapids (as on the Nile) which would prevent boat passage, but I have not yet found a need to describe those parts (should they exist), so that part of the map remains blank. "Here be Ptuvils", shall we say.
Penny
Dogs have owners; cats have staff. Grand-daughters have minions.
More about the Sirrel
As Penny alluded to in her comment, the Sirrel wends its lengthy way through a lot of Southern Alaesia.
And as Yussuf described in my Tales of Faralmark (#2 - Farsightedness) there were indeed some falls and some rapids, many of which will have been worked upon in the intervening years so may well be more navigable nowadays.
I would recommend those who haven't to make a note of two URLs.
The first is how to access the maps drawn up by Di Wonder:
https://bigclosetr.us/topshelf/fiction/45006/map-repository-...
The second is to the upper 'menu' of all the things held as Appendices to make the Anmarian experience more 'real':
https://www.bigclosetr.us/topshelf/book-page/59163/anmarian-...
I hope this adds to your enjoyment
Joolz
Intrigue
Is getting to be pretty common with this bunch.