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what about the mugger in the shop?
was he possibly more than just a mugger? how paranoid should Tammy be?
Stupid question!
Did she have the right to kill Anita?
Off course!
And John too ...
another case
another case of trying to lock the door after the barn has burnt to the ground and then rounding up the horses. That unfortunately is bureaucracy and it is quite effective after the event. That is the problem with Grey Ops. Those kind of operations tend to be bare bones, where Black Ops will have exactly the number of personnel needed and a back-up on stand-by. I'll stop there before I get accused of Office Generaling.
Tammy's now in a situation that has garnered a lot of attention, this of course creates problems. Too many irons in the fire. She had enough going on with court in two different places to begin with. Now she will have two to four more hearings at the least. Another big problem for her to deal with is Caithness Marine. That cover has been blown and burned. Literally and operationally. Too many people knew it was connected to Tammy; in a building she owned, sponsoring the theater, having her 'intern' for them. The 'pub detectives' will be speculating, if they hadn't been already, that there was something hinky about the place. Attempts on Tammy that went public and now the explosion that looks entirely too legit. As the old saying goes; 'The easier it is to believe, the more you should doubt."
quidquid sum ego, et omnia mea semper; Ego me.
alecia Snowfall
Say what you want
About the gun culture in the U.S., but all this hand wringing over whether Tammy should have taken the shot wouldn't be going on. We are actually allowed to defend ourselves, it was a clear self defense shooting. Her being a member of an intelligence agency might have been difficult, her identity would have to be concealed, but that was a righteous shot. No doubt somebody would want to present her with a medal or a proclamation or the keys to the city, but if they explained that she was a member of a counterterrorism task force or such that could be handling.
Don't get me wrong, taking a life is never an easy thing, but sometimes the 'minimum necessary force' means somebody will get shot. I am surprised she hasn't been required to take some mandatory counseling, it is pretty much a requirement here for an officer-involved shooting. Good people have problems taking somebody's life, whether they admit it or not. Remember, members of the armed forces undergo several months of training to be able to kill another person.
And just to make one thing clear, there is no such thing as 'shooting to injure', that's a TV and movie thing. They are taught to shoot for the center of the body mass, it presents a large target to aim for.
I went outside once. The graphics weren' that great.
Why the UK police normally don't have guns
There is a very good reason why even the police in the United Kingdom rarely have access to guns. Far fewer lives are lost. Here are the firearm-related death rater per 100,000 population per year for some countries.
0.23 - United Kingdom
1.97 - Canada
10.54 - United States
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-r...
I truly hope.....
That this is not the way that the security services in the UK are run. On top of the ineptitude, there seems to be little loyalty downward toward their agents, not to mention the obvious penchant for using people while keeping them totally in the dark.
I have some little experience with our own security services here in the US, and although we have our share of bumbling idiots too, I did see a much greater level of loyalty both upward and perhaps more importantly downward. People need to be inspired to fulfill their jobs properly, and you don't do that by treating them like mushrooms - feeding them shit and keeping them in the dark.
If this is an accurate depiction of your security services, it is easy to understand why your country has fallen to a second rate power in the world. No insult intended, but hopefully this story has little basis in fact. That would not only be sad, but scary.
Dallas
D. Eden
“Hier stehe ich; ich kann nicht anders. Gott helfe mir.”
Dum Vivimus, Vivamus
Backstory?
I am starting to think that maybe we are going to see or understand why Hilary and Heather had a falling out, or rather some small part of it. that little throwaway comment by Sophie(?) about their dislike seems to be more than just a falling out- maybe Hilary is the perennial screwup that the agency can't get rid of!
And I am glad to see Suzie returning to Thurso, both for Tammy's sake and their mom's sake. hopefully she can get things straight and make things right while working with a new handler and keeping Tammy away from them while she works elsewhere and under the radar
I'm told STFU more times in a day than most people get told in a lifetime
When I was on the Palm boats
When I was on the Palm boats along West Africa I saw a couple of bods shot.But sometime you have to kill to save look at the nutters around the world wasting everyone they can. So the coppers are right to shot them.If you kill for fun nutter but kill to save hero not hard to work out.
It's Easy To Be Critical
Multiple debriefings are meant to elicit details that were not initially remembered, as well as ascertaining that the truth is being told.
In situations such as the Crematorium incident there is no time to take a step back and calmly analyse what is going on. The participants ( other than the perpetrators) have to act on instinct on the spur of the moment. They may act correctly (as did Tammy) or they may make mistakes. When the inevitable Enquiry occurs there are always lawyers to second-guess and criticise those actions, so it is best to be as prepared as possible.
We currently have an Enquiry (kangaroo court) in progress in Australia into the incident known as the Lindt Café Siege in which two hostages were shot and killed before the gunman was taken down. There were plenty of mistakes made by the authorities, most of them freely admitted, but what seems to have got lost in the recriminations is that everybody was trying to do their best under pressure and did not have the luxury of calmly sitting in a courtroom debating what they SHOULD have done.
Security forces are in the unenviable position that they may be right 99% of the time but it's the 1% when they are wrong that make the headlines.
Good Grief !!!
GADZOOKS, my head is spinning now. So, all this being part of the Security Service was to keep her protected without her knowing it? She shot someone who was trying to kill her and now she is on the hot seat?
Yallah !
If I were her, I'd get out.
There doesn't seem to be any loyalty or care for anyone.
Don'T know about British law,
Don'T know about British law, but US Law regarding deadly force is: Can be used to protect others or yourself. This is the normal standard for police officers and those authorized to use deadly force.
In Anita's case, I would say Tammy was extremely justified in her actions.
Dave Brown
I Love Dave... his interaction with Tammy always makes me chuckle!
Running her own dark op?
Writing reports can only tell so much because the events are seen from one perspective and with bias.
A debriefing after an event like at the funeral home may seem grueling, as Tammy found out, but they must get past any personal biases which might be coloring what actually happened. It's upsetting of course, but a better picture of what happened is acquired. Still, they know Tammy has never been through all this, so they could have given her a bit more information so she wouldn't have been so wound up.
Hilary being toast makes one wonder if she wasn't running her own personal op outside of orders. Tammy really doesn't own the building, her company does, even though Tammy and her dad own the company. A school project, how to sell a building without putting the clothing store out of business?
Others have feelings too.